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As soon as anyone clicks this website www.faithfreedom.org , we have this written material by this liar
"I invite you to disprove my accusations of Muhammad and Islam. If you can show that what I say is unfounded I promise to remove this site not before confessing that I was wrong and Islam is a true religion." - Ali Sina

But when this liar was confronted with the debate, on this particular issue and fallacious attributes, to our Prophet he has this to anwer, in online debate
Ali Sina's Claim
"Muhammad and his followers destroyed all the books that belonged to the pre Islamic era of "jahiliyyah". If no other book prior to Muhammad mentions this city it is because Muhammad burned those books."

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What the..... this is a complete LIE !!!!!!! Now, Ali Sina , by the grace of God, you have been exposed as a liar just like Robert Morey:

http://www.examinethetruth.com/morey_challenge.htm

I am challenging you.... to show your evidence for this statement which you have made, if you can not, then this will expose you as a liar once and for all.

rather, we have several examples of PRE ISLAMIC POETRY

Ali Sina still arrogant and confident responds
"The history reports the burning of the libraries in virtually all the countries that Muslims invaded. The most famous one of then was the huge library of Alexandria."

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Prophet Muhammed(P) DID NOT burn this library down, NOR did he ever teach to burn libraries! You know that very well Ali Sina. Do not try to divert our attention to irrelevant information. Furthermore, this library existed in Egypt, not Arabia! What library was burned in Arabia? You specifically accused the Prophet of Islam, Prophet Muhammed(P), and you claimed ALL THE LIBRARIES.

To be continued......
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Thanks bro

Yeh mate let's bring it on Dr Ali Sina and expose him

All his lies must be exposed on Free-Islam


Thanks again brother
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AhmedBahgat wrote:
Thanks bro

Yeh mate let's bring it on Dr Ali Sina and expose him

All his lies must be exposed on Free-Islam


Thanks again brother


Insha'Allah brother, Insha'Allah. The funny thing is that he's actually lost a debate on his own forum....in just 3 rounds! A brother named Abdur Rafay totally KO'ed Sina and he's refusing to put his response on his site.


Brother Abdur Rafay crushes Zina...I mean Sina Very Happy :

http://www.faithfreedom.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=27226
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Thanks bro Abu Hamza

Yeh man Dr Ali is a joke and a clear cut manipulator who was exposed many times now

I will read the link and post it inh here under its own thread to highlighted to all our brothers and sisters

Thanks man
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AhmedBahgat wrote:
Thanks bro Abu Hamza

Yeh man Dr Ali is a joke and a clear cut manipulator who was exposed many times now

I will read the link and post it inh here under its own thread to highlighted to all our brothers and sisters

Thanks man


Bro go to page 6 to read Abdur Rafay's last response, Ali Sina has only responded (not even worth calling it a response but...) to his first two posts here:

http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/AbdurRafay60905.htm

~Salaam
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AhmedBahgat wrote:
Thanks bro Abu Hamza

Yeh man Dr Ali is a joke and a clear cut manipulator who was exposed many times now

I will read the link and post it inh here under its own thread to highlighted to all our brothers and sisters

Thanks man


Bro go to page 6 to read Abdur Rafay's last response, Ali Sina has only responded (not even worth calling it a response but...) to his first two posts here:

http://www.faithfreedom.org/debates/AbdurRafay60905.htm

~Salaam



Thanks bro

I'm reading it right now, Brother Abu Rafey sounds like a very respected and very smart human, indeed he got him red handed before even debating Dr Ali

See Dr Ali says that he debate only scholars while he is not any where near to be one,

you know why he wants scholars?

because most scholars are hadith worshipper in the sense of attached to it, and Ali knows that and he will use the hadith against them and he will corner them

my challenge to Ali Sina is not about scholarsship, rather about the lArabic language that he claims to be gopod at it, and this is where I will get him red handed


I only challenge Ali Sina regarding the Arabic Quran, no hadith or aything else, possibly the Bible can be accepted as a secondery evidences, but I know that he does not have the balls to take on that challenge

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I want the debate of the ff site, to be sent as PM as this website is blocked in UAE Crying or Very sad . I wanna know more about, this chap. Please Smile
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Hey bro SOA, try to use a public proxy in the internet connection settings, this may make you able to browse FF web site

do you know how to do it?
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These people are very intelligent they have even blocked th ose websites also. I tried it once, before my epiphany, i used to look for lots of other websites, I hope you getting my drift and tried through proxies all of them are blocked. Forget abou tthat even VoiP is blocked here coz its a tax free countr they are other ways of generating tax. Sad
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SlaveofAllaah wrote:
These people are very intelligent they have even blocked th ose websites also. I tried it once, before my epiphany, i used to look for lots of other websites, I hope you getting my drift and tried through proxies all of them are blocked. Forget abou tthat even VoiP is blocked here coz its a tax free countr they are other ways of generating tax. Sad



I ca't believe how ignorant most all arab coutries are man, I was in Dubai about 6 weeks ago and it was very hot man, how is the weather there nowdays?

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I agree bro, Ali Sina is an anti-Hadeeth/Seerah polemicist. He twists and misinterpretates both the Seerah and the Ahadeeths of the Prophet ( صلى الله عليه وسلم ) and merely quotes the Qur'aan out of context.

He has virtually NO knowledge of the Arabic language so naturally he relies on translations.

Good luck getting a 1-on-1 debate with him bro, I doubt he'll respond.
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SlaveofAllaah wrote:
These people are very intelligent they have even blocked th ose websites also. I tried it once, before my epiphany, i used to look for lots of other websites, I hope you getting my drift and tried through proxies all of them are blocked. Forget abou tthat even VoiP is blocked here coz its a tax free countr they are other ways of generating tax. Sad


can you read it here bro:


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So you got whats up there, they put the same stuff for yahoo, and skype also. Well hopeless guys.
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AhmedBahgat wrote:

I ca't believe how ignorant most all arab coutries are man, I was in Dubai about 6 weeks ago and it was very hot man, how is the weather there nowdays?
cheers


Its pretty cold now and the weather is a lot better. They have blocked these sites for religious reasons and we see bigger things happening dubai. Well cant help.
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Well this is in continuity to my Post 1 wehre Ali Sina charged that Propeht burnt the Libraries in the Arab world and if proven wrong would shut his website let us go further.

Ali Sina
"According to Taha Hussain Muslims destroyed all pre Islamic books and then fabricated poetries and words to justify the errors of the grammar of the Quran."

Quite frankly, Taha Hussain �??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¢�?????�????�???�??�?�¢?�?????�????�???�??�?�¬�??????�?????�????�???�??�?�¦..and Paul Newton can kiss my brown #$@.

Furthermore, these clowns never claimed that Prophet Muhammed(P) destroyed pre Islamic books. Dear God, you lied on Taha Hussain also???? Is there any end to your distortions??

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You have not shown us that PROPHET MUHAMMED(P) WAS INVOLVED IN BOOK BURNINGS, AND DESTROYED ALL BOOKS IN ARABIA AS YOU FALSLY ACCUSED HIM OF. NOR HAVE YOU SHOWN US ANY TEACHING FROM ISLAM WHICH TELLS MUSLIMS TO BURN PRE ISLAMIC BOOKS
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