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- Tue 27 Mar, 2007 7:48 pm
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Rahman and Rahim

I would like to dwell on the meanings of “Rahman” and “Rahim”, as different from what has been told so far or we have told up to date.

“Rahman” is a proper noun and cannot be translated!” (See ‘The Interpretation of the Koran by Hamdi Yazir of Elmali’, volume 1, page 32.)

“Although ‘Rahman’ has been taken to mean as the ‘Compassionate’, it cannot be translated that way. The compassion or the mercy of Allah Taala is not a feeling of kindness as a hearty emotion or a selfish inclination. As explained in the chapter of Fatiha, it means the WILLINGNESS OF GOODNESS (irada-i khayr) and INFINITE BLESSING (anam). (The same book, volume 1, page 33.)

“The existence is the basis of all goodness and blessings. Creating us with our physical and spiritual beings upon such a willpower of goodness, through bringing us into existence from nonexistence, Rahman is at the same time the owner of highest compassion (rahmati jalila) that manifest and produce the gifts of our lives and survival. Because there cannot be any creation outside of the reach of that rahmat, it is called as the rahmat with highest of blessings (jalaili niam). (The same book, vol. 1, page 77.)

Now from there it becomes clear that far beyond the common idea of human judgments that it is ‘compassionate and merciful’, Rahman is, in the universal sense, the one that makes to exist, that brings the existence into being out of nothing as he desired!.

Rahim, however, denotes the one that creates the mechanism to form the system of such an existence.

The word ‘Rahim’ is of Arabic origin. Mother’s ‘womb’ is also called as ‘rahim’. The same way as a mother’s womb can develop the baby upon its own characteristics beginning from the level of a cell up to a mature level to live in the world, Rahim also develops a unit through the characteristics that the Names of the one referred to as Allah denote and manifest, which were desired and brought into existence by Rahman beforehand.

Therefore, any individual or any being is a unit that was created by Rahman and Rahim. In other words, every individual has come into existence as a combination and a composition of the Names of the one denoted by the noun ‘Allah’ in the way as the names ‘Rahman’ and ‘Rahim’ signify.

This is so considering the universal sense of these Names and we should avoid from confusing them with our understandings based on worldly human judgments.

Besides, I leave it to you to decide how an acceptance of god bearing with a human sense of compassion somewhere up there fits with reality, if we simply consider the fact that each and every minute all live beings slaughter or eat another alive.

- Thu 29 Mar, 2007 6:01 am
Post subject: rahman and rahim - Bring it on

Rahman denotes the Macrocopic Constant ( A Fixed Quality),

Whereas the Rahim denotes the Microscopic Variable Quality,

which is repeatedly bestowed (sent down like rain) upon his favoured ones,

As far as I see it.

Love,

- Thu 29 Mar, 2007 6:18 pm
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hindi wrote:
Rahman denotes the Macrocopic Constant ( A Fixed Quality),

Whereas the Rahim denotes the Microscopic Variable Quality,

which is repeatedly bestowed (sent down like rain) upon his favoured ones,

As far as I see it.

# interesting...can u elaborate a li'l more, matey? (-:

also...why do u call rahman "macroscopic", and rahim "microscopic"?

## take care! (-:

- Tue 03 Apr, 2007 3:43 am
Post subject: rahman and rahim - Bring it on

To explain further, Rahman, like Wisdom, is His inbuilt quality. It is eternal.

Rahim forms a small part of Rahman. He is Rahim when He answers to our prayers, or FEELS pity.

In other words, Rahim is a quality like pity or mercy which immediately comes into action when He wants to extend active help to His servants or worshippers.

- Tue 03 Apr, 2007 2:23 pm
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hindi wrote:
To explain further, Rahman, like Wisdom, is His inbuilt quality. It is eternal.

Rahim forms a small part of Rahman. He is Rahim when He answers to our prayers, or FEELS pity.

In other words, Rahim is a quality like pity or mercy which immediately comes into action when He wants to extend active help to His servants or worshippers.

# thanx for elaborating, matey! (-:

## so, an eternal, fixed, unconditional, active/involved and inbuilt quality is a macroscopic quality,

and a non-eternal(finite?), variable, conditional, inactive(dormant?)/responsive and "not-inbuilt"(extrinsic?) quality is a microscopic quality,

...i gather that's what u said! (-:

## ur analysis is enlightening, bro, can i ask some more questions so that i can grasp it better? (-:

# take care, matey (-:

- Tue 03 Apr, 2007 2:44 pm
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# the "macroscopic" attribute is a continuous attribute, in that it is continually existing over space and time; whereas the "microscopic" attribute is sort of discrete, in that it is triggered, as u say, as a response to a suitable condition, did i get that right? (-:

## take care, matey! (-: